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Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby Octafish » Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:44 pm

The central roof seal on my four year old retracting roof MX5 has inexplicably perished along most of it's length .No other rubber seals on the car seem to be affected. Is this an easy DIY replacement job or do I need to involve a dealer? It is outside normal warranty but I suppose that it might just come under the bodywork warranty
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Re: Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby IanN » Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:14 pm

Is this the part you mean?

http://www.mx5parts.co.uk/roof-seal-ret ... -3562.html

Never fitted one but should be a diy job for a competent person. Scary price though!!!
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Re: Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby Octafish » Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:23 pm

Thanks for the info.
£277.44 !! plus fitting - Flippin heck!!
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Re: Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby drumtochty » Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:59 pm

You could ask the club members to chip in towards your costs!

Something tells me you would not raise much here.
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Re: Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby Octafish » Tue Jan 05, 2016 11:27 pm

drumtochty wrote:You could ask the club members to chip in towards your costs!

Something tells me you would not raise much here.


Sorry, I do not understand what you mean
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Re: Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby WSBen » Wed Jan 06, 2016 2:15 pm

Octafish wrote:
drumtochty wrote:You could ask the club members to chip in towards your costs!

Something tells me you would not raise much here.


Sorry, I do not understand what you mean


I think it is called sarcasm......one never knows for sure when he posts :(
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Re: Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby Octafish » Wed Jan 06, 2016 7:39 pm

WSBen wrote:
Octafish wrote:
drumtochty wrote:You could ask the club members to chip in towards your costs!

Something tells me you would not raise much here.


Sorry, I do not understand what you mean


I think it is called sarcasm......one never knows for sure when he posts :(


Hmmm -takes all sorts I suppose.
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Re: Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby Gavin » Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:09 pm

I think these sort of posts from Auchenblae are very unhelpful and will put off people genuinely asking for help. That's what this forum is for. Club member or not Club member. :(
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Re: Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby IanH » Wed Jan 06, 2016 9:23 pm

Gavin wrote:I think these sort of posts from Auchenblae are very unhelpful and will put off people genuinely asking for help. That's what this forum is for. Club member or not Club member. :(


Who's Auchenblae?
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Re: Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby WSBen » Wed Jan 06, 2016 10:11 pm

Location, location.........
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Re: Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby Gavin » Thu Jan 07, 2016 7:20 pm

Well done Bill, it wasn't that difficult to figure out :lol:
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Re: Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby IanH » Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:20 pm

Being indignant doesn't have the same impact if you cock up the name...
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Re: Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby Gavin » Thu Jan 07, 2016 8:49 pm

Mmmmmm. Not aware of cocking up the place name :lol:
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Re: Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby OldSpice » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:36 am

Getting back to the OP's issue.....
Does the seal look cracked & porous...as in totally shot to ribbons?
I know Mk1/Mk2 seals can shrink, but they can respond to good doses of silicon spray rubbed in with a lint-free cloth to rehydrate.
Can you take a close-up of the problem?
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Re: Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby Octafish » Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:08 pm

Yes, it is completely shot on the outer surface .The rubber is actually crumbling -it looks like a chemical attack! The inner part of the tube still seems intact. All of the rest of the rubber on the car is fine. I am had considering pumping in black windscreen surround sealer but this would obviously not compress like a hollow tube but it might just do the job. I would be worried about the operation of the hard top mechanism though. We tend to have the roof up and down a lot at the least excuse so it really needs to function properly- - -
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Re: Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby iain cooper » Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:41 pm

my roof seal also looks like starting to do the same.(2013 sport graphite)

I mentioned it to dealer service manager last year and he kind of dismissed it, also saying that the roof would need to be removed to change the seal.

tbh the guy did not inspire me with any confidence and in fact the dealership has recently lost it's Mazda franchise.

I may be getting rid of mine before the warranty expires, but looks like the Mazda dealers are getting a bit rare now?

looking at the new seal I think it could be fitted without removing the roof, so that's what I would do if I had to.

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Re: Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby Octafish » Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:28 pm

I only spotted the problem when I came across a black 'crumb' of rubber on the roof. The pictures showing the problem have been digitally enhanced - It is not really very obvious unless examined closely. I have only used' wash and wax' on the car and no other rubber is affected . Looks like mice have been at it!
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If you are still under warranty I would have this attended to pronto Iain
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Re: Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby iain cooper » Sun Jan 10, 2016 9:25 pm

wash and wax, that's what I use, turtle wax Zipwax car shampoo.

is that what you use Octafish?

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Re: Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby Octafish » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:24 pm

iain cooper wrote:wash and wax, that's what I use, turtle wax Zipwax car shampoo.

is that what you use Octafish?

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I use a' wash and wax' from a company called 'Meguiar' . I used it on previous cars with no issues. Turtle wax is a well known brand so I do not think that the shampoo is the culprit unless there is a common ingredient - - - -
I checked with my Mazda dealer and he says that he has never heard of this problem. He has agreed to check it out with Mazda UK.

Have to comment that we REALLY like the retracting roof. For us it is the ideal as it is a great design and offers complete flexibility with some degree of security ( had a soft top roof slashed in the past ) The only minor gripe is no rear wash wipe for motorway driving but this would probably have made it too expensive to produce. Anybody need a free tube of BMW vyback restorer cream?
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Re: Help! - Late model retracting roof seal has perished

Postby iain cooper » Mon Jan 11, 2016 7:43 pm

yes Megulars is a popular and well proven product, and I've been using Zipwax on my cars for over 40 years!!

let me know how you get on.

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ps I find it strange that they have never heard of this problem before?
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